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Nov 29, 2012

Arena Achievements

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12 Arena achievements were added to the game. This would be cool but most of them are unrealistic and will be impossible to achieve for some players. It looks like the pay to play concept is now flowing over to achievements as 3 of them require you spend reward points. This is bad news for an already fragile game and Zynga should really reexamine these achievements. The Arena itself is not easy for weak players or for those with low stamina pools. If you are OCD about achievements, this may be the final straw. Some more bad news for players who already have the Arena is that none of the previous Arenas you have participated in count towards 9 of the achievements.
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Before reviewing what it will take to earn these achievements, lets take a look at them.

Highly Respected Bronze
Highly Respected Bronze
Earned by reaching 1600 Respect in the Shootout Arena
Highly Respected Silver
Highly Respected Silver
Earned by reaching 2000 Respect in the Shootout Arena
Highly Respected Gold
Highly Respected Gold
Earned by reaching 2400 Respect in the Shootout Arena
Damage Dealer Bronze
Damage Dealer Bronze
Earned by dealing 100,000 damage (Score) in the Shootout Arena
Damage Dealer Silver
Damage Dealer Silver
Earned by dealing 1,000,000 damage (Score) in the Shootout Arena
Damage Dealer Gold
Damage Dealer Gold
Earned by dealing 10,000,000 damage (Score) in the Shootout Arena
View from the Top Bronze
View from the Top Bronze
Earned by being at the #1 position on the Scoreboard at the end of a Shootout Arena battle 10 times
View from the Top Silver
View from the Top Silver
Earned by being at the #1 position on the Scoreboard at the end of a Shootout Arena battle 100 times
View from the Top Gold
View from the Top Gold
Earned by being at the #1 position on the Scoreboard at the end of a Shootout Arena battle 1000 times
God of Death Bronze
God of Death Bronze
Earned by using the Kamikaze power up 10 times in the Shootout Arena
God of Death Silver
God of Death Silver
Earned by using the Kamikaze power up 100 times in the Shootout Arena
God of Death Gold
God of Death Gold
Earned by using the Kamikaze power up 1000 times in the Shootout Arena

The Highly Respected achievements require that you earn respect. Respect is gain in small increments and is based on yours and that of the other players. As you earn more Respect, it becomes harder to get but much easier to lose.  Below is how Zynga defines Respect [1].

Q: What is Respect? How do I earn it?

A: Respect shows your strength as a fighter in the Arena. At the end of each Arena, you will gain (or lose) some respect. The amount of Respect earned or lost depends on your Final position in the Arena compared to your opponents as displayed on the Results page after an Arena battle ends. You will gain significant Respect if you are able to position yourself higher than an opponent with a higher Respect compared to you. On the other hand, you will lose Respect if an opponent with lesser Respect stands higher than you in an Arena.
Currently the Top 10 Global Respect Leaderboard has a range of 1,875-1,709. Yeah that’s me in the #1 position but it’s only because I’ve participated in too many Arenas to count. Almost all the Arenas I do now net in 0 respect because the players I’m up against don’t have enough Respect to raise my score. Needing to get to 2,400 seems impossible. Once more of the stronger players get the Arena, I anticipate losing a lot of this Respect. respect
The Damage Dealer achievements require you do a certain amount of cumulative damage. Your score is the amount of damage you deal. I typically deal between 10,000-20,000 damage.
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You can see the score I earned in the Arena Table shown above is applied to my achievement. Assuming all my Arenas have this same score, I will need to participate in 560 more to deal 10 million damage. The average player in the Arena shown above will need to participate in 8,026 more Arenas!
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The View From The Top achievements are earned by coming in 1st place. This will be easier for some than it will be for others. The main factors which contribute to success in the Arena are stamina and your personal attack. The stronger you are, the more damage you will do to your opponents. The more stamina you have, the more attacks you can do in the Arena. Placing 1st requires that you outclass and outlast all the other participants in the Arena. Placing 1st a thousand times is very unrealistic and will take some players a very long time.
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viewfromthetop
The best has been saved for last. Players are expected to use the Kamikaze Power Up 1,000 times. What’s unique about Kamikaze Power Ups is you can’t craft them from Power Cards and you can’t earn them. The only way to acquire them is to purchase them using reward points. Each Kamikaze costs 4 reward points and there isn’t even a discount if you buy them in bulk.
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Kamikaze Power Ups aren’t even needed to do well in the Arena. In fact they can hurt you if used at the wrong time. Because they use all your stamina in one attack, you can find yourself out of bullets if you use them too soon. If your opponent has activated a Reflector Power Up, you may find the damage you planned on doing to your opponent is actually done to yourself! If you use a Kamikaze Power Up, you will also need to use a Stamina Refill if you want to do well in your Arena fight. Stamina Refills cost 8 reward points each.
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To break this down, 1,000 Kamikazes will cost 4,000 reward points and that is the equivalent of $800.00 USD. If you wait for Marketplace Promotions to purchase reward points, it will cost you $400.00! I’m very OCD about achievements but this one crosses the line. I use my reward points to make my character stronger and I can’t justify spending $400.00 for 1 achievement. Something needs to give or this will be the reason I finally quit playing this game.
kami3

25 comments:

  1. It would be nice if I even had access to the arena.

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  2. Wow -- more money. That's unfortunate, Zynga.
    Interestingly, the Arena has not even been rolled out to me yet.
    More interestingly, your reviews are pushing me toward not participating. THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILS in real time, Jennifer.
    Loot becomes quickly obsolete and if they won't award say, 50 of each high end item, one might be better doing straight fight list or buying crates to fulfill their loot wants.
    I'm not seeing the value yet. LOL

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  3. As one OCD player to another I agree 100% I mean $800 to zynga for 1 achievement is the last straw. To quote SNL, " really zynga? Really?" I do not even have the stupid arena yet but I hate the fact that are forcing me to spend my hard earned $$$ on RP. No no no homey don't play that. Loot lady you rock and I appreciate your hard work on this blog. Xoxo.

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    1. Thanks for all this great info Jennifer. Your blog rocks and I agree 100% with the above comment. I am OCD about achievements and this may push me from the game

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  4. Yeah, I don't have the Arena yet but when I do get it I plan to ignore it. I just don't want to get more involved in this sucky game. And yes, those undone achievements will be yet another reason to quit playing.

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  5. Arnold/ ᶌŦᶌ CΣЯΣβRΛŁϪ ΛSsΛsSÎ₦November 29, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    its going to be hard to ignore the arena because it pops right up in your face when you go to your mafia wars. my wife's account has the arena and it is annoying she is a low level with low stamina

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  6. Thank God i have stopped playing mafia wars and now i think its the time to stop reading about it.

    Thank you all of you. MWLL team, Spockholm team, MwAddon team and everyone else who made this game alot easier to play. Keep doing what you are doing, You Rock. God Bless you all.

    I am done!!!

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  7. no one pointed out that for 4K rps, you actually get 3 whole achievements/skill points....



    ponderous

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  8. Anyone who spends 800 dollars to receive one achievement needs their head examined.

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  9. This just adds another nail into the coffin of a once great game.

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  10. I have no access to the Arena yet - I am level 3481 - are some of us blocked?

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  11. Awesome! I got 100 rp!

    Still got no arena.... *sigh*

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  12. I am level 5K+ and I have the arena. I have almost 9K stamina to spend and when I was done with the 150ices I tried arena on 2K stamina. I was too lucky that I leveled up much faster and I had full stamina refill and my experience was almost halfway filled when I leveled-up. Second try with the same stamina at 2K I gained 1.8exp/stam ratio and I lost some of my respect since I went in the arena with not much stamina to use. I would think this is designed for the higher level mafia not for the average or the low-level ones. I was lucky on the first try cause it was only rolled out with a few. But as time progress and as arena is rolled out to most it will be like committing suicide when you enter the arena as an average mafia player.

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  13. Im still waiting to see Arena in my game, the fkin zynga haven't added it in my game yet even my all minis got it during last week. This sucks, if its a slow roll out their should be any strategy to add it, like acceding or descending MW IDs, but the ID i am using from last 5 years, haven't got the event and new little minis got it straight. so the word slow roll out is just a shit. Zynga need's developers.
    Bill

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  14. This is just plain stupid. I still don't have the arena and by the sound of it..i don't want it either.. But to show u how the roll out works... i logged in to a sleeping acct (has not played for over 2 months) and it got..YES>>> THE ARENA!!!!! idiots

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  15. I wish I would have read this before running through the Arena last night when I got it. I had the ability to make Kamikaze for 2 power cards. I made 5 and then ignored it. Today, they now cost me RP. If you get the Arena, check to see if you can make them and make a bunch, if you want to try for the achievement. Maybe it was a mistake, or maybe it is something available when you first play? No idea, but kicking myself for only making 5 last night. I was OCD on achievements, but I won't be going for these. After playing the arena three times, spending 15k in stamina, getting three 3rds and only twenty ices, I've deemed this a waste of valuable stamina. Looking forward to some future strategy walkthroughs that would make this fun, otherwise 'ignore'.

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  16. Be Very Lucky you don,t have it yet.It just showed up yesterday,and I can,t stand it,and most of the players i talk to,say the same thing,This Game Sucks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  17. I have it, it's to ocomplicated with not enough reward for the brain effort and time. I refuse to utilize this aspect of the game. What I hate most about it without ever having actually tried it is that it now takes my game forever to load, sometimes giving me gateway errors. I never got these before Arena was added to my game. Zynga needs to allow us to opt in or out on this one. I would actually pay to have it removed from my game.

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  18. I cant really put my finger on what or which acc's the arena is for yet but a game that is driving ppl away this days should have come up with something better dont you thing!!! Crisis must have killed zynga creativity cause they are going backwards or one step forth and two back...LOL!!! All and all i am not a paying customer so i might just might walk away with only man hour damage and forget i spent 4 good years on a game that instead of developing into a challenge has turned into nonsense!!! And Jen if this page goes down i will most definitely STOP!!!

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    1. Well as a stamina ho I think its great if you do it at the end of a level I can get seriously into the next level win or lose So for me great. I really don't understand you guys who haven't worked out how to play this game .This game is about numbers ....just numbers build the stuff that makes you level ...Stamina.... take 1 RP every 2 levels use it to build more stamina until you can only level 6 or 7 times a day after that just add att/def every time u level spend your RP's on building att/def .Fight all day for no stam purchase .Game over , job done. To me it doesn't matter if you are level 1000 or 10000 as long as u can beat the person you want to beat ............LCN combat calculator is really dumb WHAT DOES YOUR LEVEL MATTER AS LONG AS U CAN BEAT YOUR OPPONENT. Think outside the box beat zynga at their own game, have some patience and get it done (work out if you level 5000 times you have 25000 Skill points to spend) its not rocket science..........

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  19. Jen dont go - your blog is actually more interesting than MW itself!!

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  20. I received a Kamikaze as part of my arena winnings so there are ways of getting them. It will be more about how long you can wait and if this game play will still be a part of MW and you manage to get 1000 freebie ones.

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  21. How to score more points than others and be first on the list in the arena ?
    For example, I am at 5000 level with 11K attack / 11K defense and 11K stamina.
    With this stats how i can do well in arena because everybody on the list, whether Easy/Medium/Hard kill me very fast with high points and when i hit somebody i score less points.
    Give some suggestions ....

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